Comments on: iPhucked: Apple advocates face an angry god http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/ Homo homini rodentius est Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:20:21 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: SD http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4134 SD Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:47:06 +0000 http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4134 Damien, Thanks for the compliment. As for Apple missing the 2.0 boat -- that's a ship they certainly don't want to sail on. Their business model is the <em>oldest</em> in the book: lock in users and maintain total control on how other businesses interact with their platform. They got a PR pass from users (particularly younger users) because they were able to convince the record companies to practically give away their products on iTunes so that Apple could build their huge marketshare. It's pretty clear now that their content partners hoped that -- one day -- after they had helped make the iPod the dominant music platform, Jobs & Co. would share the wealth and loosen price controls. When that didn't happen, they started evacuating iTunes. They won't be fooled again. Damien,

Thanks for the compliment. As for Apple missing the 2.0 boat — that’s a ship they certainly don’t want to sail on. Their business model is the oldest in the book: lock in users and maintain total control on how other businesses interact with their platform. They got a PR pass from users (particularly younger users) because they were able to convince the record companies to practically give away their products on iTunes so that Apple could build their huge marketshare.

It’s pretty clear now that their content partners hoped that — one day — after they had helped make the iPod the dominant music platform, Jobs & Co. would share the wealth and loosen price controls. When that didn’t happen, they started evacuating iTunes. They won’t be fooled again.

]]> By: Damien http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4126 Damien Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:48:44 +0000 http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4126 Excellent article. I'm a recent convert to Apple products and whilst I still thrill at their elegant design and intuitive functionality, the overt fascism which Apple insist on is grating to say the least. They seem to have entirely missed the evolution of 2.0 principles and open-source thinking. Excellent article. I’m a recent convert to Apple products and whilst I still thrill at their elegant design and intuitive functionality, the overt fascism which Apple insist on is grating to say the least. They seem to have entirely missed the evolution of 2.0 principles and open-source thinking.

]]> By: SD http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4103 SD Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:50:49 +0000 http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4103 Jason, I think these are growing pains for Apple. They have decided to become a major player in the consumer electronics space and must find a way to marry their obsession with control to a public desire for interoperability and "freedom". I'm not religious when it comes to these things -- if they can make the transition more power to them. Aatom, security is yet another aspect of the same challenge. As they step out of the "walled garden" to increase marketshare they are bound to incur increasing threats. It is, as always, a trade-off. Jason,

I think these are growing pains for Apple. They have decided to become a major player in the consumer electronics space and must find a way to marry their obsession with control to a public desire for interoperability and “freedom”. I’m not religious when it comes to these things — if they can make the transition more power to them.

Aatom, security is yet another aspect of the same challenge. As they step out of the “walled garden” to increase marketshare they are bound to incur increasing threats. It is, as always, a trade-off.

]]> By: Aatom http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4098 Aatom Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:45:51 +0000 http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4098 Clever use of their own iconic ad against them, but the types of products that Apple continues to produce and innovate are still light years ahead of any competition, so I suspect that Jobs can continue to be a control freak for a bit longer. The argument still holds that there is a trade-off between flexibility and security with their products, and as long as they remain just flexible enough within their cloistered walls, I think people will still choose security in fairly large numbers. I suspect there is a large swath of consumers that are actually somewhat relieved that they don't have infinite choices to make within the Apple universe. And you simply can't underestimate the draw of great tech design. Even in NY, I still see people turn their heads and ooh and aah when they see an iPhone walk by, as if it is a celebrity in its own right. Clever use of their own iconic ad against them, but the types of products that Apple continues to produce and innovate are still light years ahead of any competition, so I suspect that Jobs can continue to be a control freak for a bit longer. The argument still holds that there is a trade-off between flexibility and security with their products, and as long as they remain just flexible enough within their cloistered walls, I think people will still choose security in fairly large numbers. I suspect there is a large swath of consumers that are actually somewhat relieved that they don’t have infinite choices to make within the Apple universe. And you simply can’t underestimate the draw of great tech design. Even in NY, I still see people turn their heads and ooh and aah when they see an iPhone walk by, as if it is a celebrity in its own right.

]]> By: Webomatica http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4097 Webomatica Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:00:53 +0000 http://www.ratdiary.com/2007/09/30/iphucked-apple-advocates-face-an-angry-god/#comment-4097 Hmmm. Yes I think I'm seeing your point, also in how Apple is morphing from a computer company to one more like Nintendo or Sony. Now I would say Apple is still "open" in the sense of what kinds of files can you put on their closed systems, but increasingly the OS and the applications, definitely less so - especially when it comes to iPod and iPhone. I would hate to think all that "open source" stuff back in the beginning days of OS X was just a ploy - but maybe it was. Seems like Apple Stores are just iPod stores? Hmmm. Yes I think I’m seeing your point, also in how Apple is morphing from a computer company to one more like Nintendo or Sony. Now I would say Apple is still “open” in the sense of what kinds of files can you put on their closed systems, but increasingly the OS and the applications, definitely less so – especially when it comes to iPod and iPhone.

I would hate to think all that “open source” stuff back in the beginning days of OS X was just a ploy – but maybe it was. Seems like Apple Stores are just iPod stores?

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